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Expiation Mods ([personal profile] expiationmods) wrote in [community profile] expiationnet2024-11-03 08:32 am

OKCINDR POST #4

Ever wanted to have CR with a character and wasn't sure how to get them to cross paths? Wanted a dating app so you can hook up with hot people? Wanted to just find friends because you're a lonely bastard?

With the update of the tablets and the apps, we now have a dating / friendship app called OKCINDR! Players can use it as they please for the two months that it's up -- just imagine that they're profiles to swipe right on and everything. The idea is to encourage CR that may be difficult to get with characters who may or may not be interested in events / posts / logs / other network posts.

So, on November 3rd, characters randomly look back at their tablets to see the following:

OKCINDR PROFILE RESET #4
PLEASE RESET PROFILE


This month, if players reset their profile, they will have a list of questions to answer:

What is forgiveness?
Can a criminal ever really be forgiven?
should you be forgiven?
Is a crime ever justified?
How do you justify your crime?
Can you forgive someone who's wronged you?


Players, of course, are able to ignore this message. However, if a character wouldn't fill it out but a player would like to participate... the profile mysteriously resets itself. There may even be responses sent from Character A to Character B without Character A actually doing anything, if you'd like! This is a completely opt-in scenario! But for players who would like to participate fill out the post:

network profile
Character_Name
@username
ABOUT_ME




If you'd like to for shits and giggles, here's some notifications that may be used:

Name (@username) followed you




Name (@username) unfollowed you




Name (@username) blocked you




Have fun! Code credit.
jaganshi: (you'll never finish me)

[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-04 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
[ of course it's fine when he does it!! Hello!? ]

Not here.

Where are you?
sinningtree: (Y - YYH053_1583)

[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
[No response, just a location. Let's be real, he's probably at the house.]
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[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-04 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)

Trying to lure him with reasons to step in the house other than accidentally cooking the pond fish with his bath water... he sees your ways, Kurama. The fire apparition appears in short order at least, not to leave the redhead hanging on what the hell is going on, though the scowl is still on his face anyway. Usually things said in passing like what Scott had he would toss off, but something about it involving Yukina has it twisting in his gut a little too much to let sleeping dogs lie.

... Or something like that.

"Kurama?" He isn't exactly hiding his footsteps, but just in case.
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-04 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Excuse him for browsing the weird dating app thing in the comfort of his own home, Hiei. Kurama is, by the time the fire demon arrives, heading for the entrance where a certain tree is located. He doesn't even have to come in, if he doesn't want to.

"This seems serious." His head tilts curiously, hiding the amusement in his expression despite the light tone. For now, he's letting Hiei approach things as he wants to, but the fox hasn't forgotten their previous conversations so easily.
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[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-04 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)

Hiei meets Kurama's obvious enough (to him) amusement with a little growl of annoyance. He knows better than to kick up much more of a fuss than this, though, lest he make it that much worse for himself in the end. Kurama of all people perhaps has a better idea of how Hiei views his relationship with Yukina, and why he does not wish to state that she is his sister under normal circumstances openly.

.. Whether he thinks they're valid or not is another case entirely of course.

Predictably there is a pause as Hiei debates on how to word this, before finally just deciding it's best to spit it out in one go. This is Kurama - he will get it all out of him one way or another.

"Scott, at the hot springs, expressed that he thinks I want to date Yukina."
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-04 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a long moment as Kurama waits for the explanation, and then takes his time to work out just how to respond to it. While he could mention that being forthcoming about this information would have solved a world of problems for the fire apparition, this isn't a matter between the small group of them,
anymore .

"So you thought the best way to handle that was to announce it for everyone to see?" He is assuming here that Hiei is going to point out he hadn't actually posted it. Which was kind of his intent, that if Hiei had just admitted the truth to the few people who cared it wouldn't be up on the network for everyone in Aldrip.

Whether that gets heard is, of course, another matter entirely.
jaganshi: (no point in counting)

[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-04 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)

"I didn't-" Hiei starts with bared teeth and raised voice of course, already wound up by the entire thing just being out there now for the world to apparently see before the other shoe drops, mentally. He can see Kurama's point coming and yet has very little choice but to walk right in to it so far as he can see.

Yes, he could have simply faced it head on and told Yukina and gotten it over and done with, but he had chosen not to. His own inability to face things concerning his past rising up again to bite him in the ass in possibly embarrassing (but not very terrible) ways for the moment, but it's still annoying as hell to deal with. Yukina knew, so it wasn't like he needed to worry about shocking her, but still.

"Shut up before you say it. I'm tired of the subject already and we haven't even begun." He's clawing the tree he's so annoyed about it, barely containing the want to destroy something for the laughs of it all.
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-10 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurama watches as Hiei's sharp retort hits the brakes, wheels turning with realization. As for the subject? His tone might carry the implication that he has no idea what the fire apparition could possibly mean.

"This place has a way of forcing us to deal with things, whether we want to or not. These allegedly crimes we've committed, parts of ourselves we may think we've put behind us. It seems that these decisions will not be on our terms for as long as we remain here."
jaganshi: (there's nothing left)

[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)

"Then it's a good thing they've somehow made the dragon unreachable." Would he burn down everything that was non-chosen related as his revenge? Probably, at this point. The entire Yukina and their shared heritage issue is a touchy subject under regular circumstances, not to mention here where enemies seem to come from nowhere and, apparently, even the townspeople now find them suspicious. To say it all makes Hiei edgy is a kind way to put it, honestly.

"There is nothing to deal with, anyway. She is safe and that was the goal in the first place."

So he can just put it away in a neat little box like that... right?
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-12 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"The fact that they are capable of doing so suggests perhaps we're a little out of our depth here."

How is one able to determine safety in a place like this? Everything is fake and the rules don't matter.

"Or have you forgotten that our goals have nothing to do with it? If the purpose of being here is to pay for our crimes, we need to address those issues directly in order to be considered rehabilitated." This isn't the first time he's suspected Hiei's crime, despite never seeing the scroll. Yukina being here could be to a means of forcing him to face the subject.

"Supposedly, that is the only way out of this place. Play by their rules or remain here indefinitely."
jaganshi: (you can forget it)

[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-14 12:12 am (UTC)(link)

"Then I suppose the both of us will stay." The fire apparition grinds it out pointedly, clearly annoyed about this entire thing. Of course he is, though. Yukina has spelled it out for him plainly and he still insists on not doing a damn thing about it other than pretending that the issue does not exist, or placating himself that since she knows she is fine just the way she is. Denial is not just a river in egypt, etc etc.

Beyond that.. well. He knows Kurama well enough. He may not know exactly what the fox is being punished for but they are both hard-headed to a fault when it comes down to it.

And Hiei is pissed off at this entire ordeal and will, naturally, dig in his heels to be an asshole.

"What makes you sure even in the slightest that these unknown forces will even stick to their word? Oddly trusting, for you."
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-15 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
"Then I suppose so." Does he seem bothered in the least by that? Not really. As for the last thing Hiei says? There's almost a pointedly cool indifference to his reply.

"Is it? I seem to recall a great deal of playing by the rules of others since we met Yusuke." Koenma, Toguro, the whole dark tournament. It was playing by the rules of the territory that led to killing Amanuma, and they'd stood back to watch Yusuke fight Sensui alone. Twice. What makes this any different?

"Regardless, if the current theory about this world holds any weight, it doesn't matter, does it?"
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[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-17 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Hiei notes the tone of course, but doesn't count it as a victory yet. He knows that they are just as stubborn as the other from time to time, that the two of them were terrible when it would probably behoove them not to be. Too late to change now, obviously, whether they're here to 'pay' for their perceived crimes or not.

"And, the same as here, what choice we we given?" Sure, Hiei could've said the hell with it all, but that would've meant an indefinite prison sentence in either the human world or the spirit world, something that he, obviously, did not want to deal with. To Hiei they are currently verbally sparring, in their own way, though he had obviously started it with his hardly bottled frustration with everything to do with both this place and his current situation re : Yukina and their relationship to each other.

"While we are still here, it does. At least in part." If only because they are currently living it, of course.

"Until we are otherwise released or something changes, anyway."
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-26 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't a victory, not for the fire apparition. The pointed absence of emotion in his tone is more to do with the fact that if he was being entirely straightforward about things, the suggestion that he was trusting their prisoners would be downright comical.

Considering he doesn't think they even exist.

Kurama isn't concerned about absolving himself of any crime in some naive hope of escaping this world. His priorities are more in line with keeping everyone safe and comfortable for as long as they could be, which - for the twins, at least - means addressing things as they come before it's too late. Nothing was ever on their terms here, and the sooner they understood that, the better. The same as he was constantly pushed to face his other forms, they were being manipulated into addressing their own realities, whether Hiei wanted to accept that or not.

“None. That's why our best course of action is to live as well as we can while we're here. The same as we always have, dealing with each new challenge as it comes.”

While we're still here, Hiei says and Kurama- pauses, uncertain.

“Released-?”

The fox glances away, trying to think. How does he explain this? If it wasn't clear already, what could he even say to ensure it makes sense? “No, that's... what I mean. Hiei, do you- realize why resetting the simulation was so important?”
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[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-27 12:10 am (UTC)(link)

Hiei will always have a hard time accepting things that are not on his own terms. The entire issue with his crime is that he had never thought about or even considered telling Yukina the truth. It had been his price to Shigure, sure - but even if the demon doctor is no longer alive, facing the truth of their relation is still too much.

Yes, Yukina was not nearly as pure as she liked to portray herself (at least not in the way of wanting to keep her fellow ice maidens alive, anyway), but he is still far too tainted in his own opinion. Not only by how much death he had directly caused, purposefully cast upon others but in all that he had been put through. Their worldviews were very different as a result, how they moved through the world. Yukina still held so much faith in humans and other people to treat her well and still held the ability to trust without having to be put through something like a trial beforehand.

Kurama may not find this to be valid, or true, but it is still how he views himself. As a corruption set to ruin what good is in her, still, despite everything.

Thankfully they turn to another subject instead of lingering on living the best they can here despite it all, and instead turns to look up at his partner with curious red eyes, blinking before he shrugs.

"Not entirely. But you needed the task done, so I got it done."
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-11-28 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Kurama knows Hiei well enough, that if he wanted Yukina to learn the truth he would have ensured it happened in some form or another regardless of Shigure's conditions. There were always loopholes, if he could ask Kurama to close that door at his request, he could easily find a way to keep it open. He chooses not to.

The matter of Hiei's past experiences coloring his perspective was not a new one, but - in this instance - it was one that the fox could never fully understand. He had lived centuries, caused too many deaths to count, betrayed friends on multiple occasions, and yet Kurama felt it was never too late to change and do things differently, to become a better person going forward. His mother had been enough reason to put his own history behind him, try to act accordingly, at least.

Although, like Yukina, Kurama was able to trust much more freely than the fire apparition. Very different worldviews, for completely different reasons.

For a moment, green eyes just watch Hiei, seeming almost uncertain how to process that response. He hadn't quite made an informed decision or demanded to know what was in it for him, he'd just done it. The confusion was likely as apparent as his concern, but processing that revelation was a distraction from what he was trying to say.

Back to the subject at hand.

“Many here wanted to destroy this world, thinking that would enable us to escape. That the reset would only serve to entrap us longer if it was allowed to happen.” That was typically Hiei's method as well, wasn't it? Even when it had failed before with Kaito, he still tried again the same way in Amanuma's territory.

“This isn't like anything we've experienced before, really. With what information The Chosen have-” It was not easy to explain to someone who didn't have the framework to fully understand everything involved, especially someone like Hiei who preferred the short and sweet approach to communicating.

“On Earth, those territories had physical limits, we had to be inside of them for any influence to work on us, for one.” Much like Yusuke having his shadow stepped on, but he's sure that Hiei is following along up to this point, at least. Less sure how long he might continue to do so.

“This world is different somehow. It seems that no one is truly running it, not anymore, anyway. Evidence also suggests- that we are not truly here at all. Our real selves may be back home, completely unaware any of this is happening, no one we know will have any reason to believe that we are gone from there, either.”

Back home their lives continue on as if none of this is happening. He glances over a shoulder as he speaks, pausing a moment before continuing, as if to give Hiei a chance to catch up. Or brushing past the implication there.

“If the theories are correct, we can not be released from this reality because we are also a part of it. Nothing more than fabricated code, imitations of our true selves.”

In short- “We can never return, as we were never truly taken from somewhere else in the first place. It seems that these versions of us will not survive outside of this simulation, and for that matter, I'm afraid that it’s unclear... how much longer we may be able to survive inside of it.”

So, yes, it really does go back to making the most of it and living as well as they can under these conditions. To the best of their abilities. The same as every other realm he's had to survive in, one must learn to adapt. Just as in demon world they run the risk of being killed every day, it is only a matter of time until their code corrupts like the other cities before them.

“While it's only really a theory at this stage, it seems to be... The most logical scenario. All things considered.”
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[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-11-30 05:06 am (UTC)(link)

“What?” Hiei grouses as Kurama stares at him. The confusion is what gets him more than anything else - he is used to the fox looking so conflicted after all. Always thinking ahead, always making sure that there were plans A through G for all of them. How he manages it is beyond the fire apparition if he is honest with himself.

Hiei never wakes up with a plan for his day, much less thinks through a strategy on how to get through a certain situation. Not a thing past his initial heist with Kurama had been anything close to planned, and he is still, somehow, incredibly, alive to tell the story.

Not that it would’ve bothered him too much if he hadn’t, but that was a story for another day.

The fire demon takes a moment to let all the information sink in, eyes darting here and there as if he is connecting dots or simply trying to sort it all out in his mind. There is a lot to chew on, here, and realities that Hiei doesn’t particularly want to dwell on. Beyond that… well. He still calls the demon world his home. Facing down inevitable death in some new place on a theory does not phase him.

“So we fight to survive in yet another new and odd place. What’s so different from what we’re used to?” A pause, and then - “Other than the scenery.”

Though, while they’re on the subject of all of this, and Kurama’s insistence that it is a theory -

“You’ve capitulated to a theory that easily?” He finds it unusual, despite all the sense that it made to him and other people. After all, Hiei knows there is someone in particular that the fox will want to get back to, the same as he has a job he wants to get back to.

“I suppose you do usually fall to the mental back and forth and planning for all manner of possibilities instead of focusing on a smaller or singular goal.” And with that little jab to the ribs placed between them, the fire demon sighs before deciding to say it despite what Kurama has already said.

“I am still resolved that if a chance presents itself, I will try. Otherwise this is simply a slightly more interesting version of the human world to me and I will treat it as such.”
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-12-06 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Kurama doesn't bother to acknowledge the what, instead focusing on the rest of the fire apparition's words. Right now especially, he doesn't want to dwell on things that make either of them uncomfortable.

“Not a whole lot, it would seem.” Which was kind of his point, there is no difference being here than there was being on human world instead of demon world. That's just it, this isn't the same as being trapped in a territory where they need to get out in order to return things to normal, it is an entire plane of existence on its own. They could die here or never be released, but they still have to live for as long as they're here, whether escape is an option or not. The easier they make that on each other the better, isn't it?

Like, perhaps, meeting Yukina halfway on the discussion that started this conversation before all of Aldrip is convinced Hiei's interest in her is something else entirely.

At the question green eyes narrow, but Hiei continues on so he doesn't respond right away. As if he's ever just been satisfied to accept one answer for anything, which is shortly enough acknowledged by mention of his juggling all manner of possibilities, at least.

“If I recall, going all in on one idea has always better suited you, Hiei.” Maybe the least charitable response, all things considered. A jab for a jab when the redhead is already annoyed by several factors that have brought them to this point. The fox's words are only confirmed by Hiei's unwavering determination to continue trying the same old trick, despite the evidence that it hasn't worked so far.
jaganshi: (you'll never finish me)

[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-12-07 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
The answer is and always will be no. Of all things Hiei is best at, being an obstinate little shit is one he excels at. Particularly when there is an attempt to force his hand in one way or another. Also attempting to force him to tell Yukina he is her brother is met the same way any hints toward it are in their world: with heels dug in and a gear willingness to make it in to a fight, on Hiei’s part.

“And I am still alive and here.” Sometimes against his own will or by the skin of his teeth, but the point is there.

At times not bothering with many elaborate plans has equal results to Kurama’s plans A through Z. And he’ll uphold the point by simply refusing to acknowledge anything else.

“We are already here. A theory is only that, and if presented with an opportunity we should take it. So far as I can see it there’s no need to think about it any further. You’ll drive yourself up a wall.”
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[personal profile] sinningtree 2024-12-08 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't as if Kurama intends to be the one to force his hand, but it was clear enough what Yukina wants and behaving as if her feelings don't matter in any of this was its own form of cruelty. Still, it is not his fight to have and he's more or less told her that she needs to figure it out for herself, as well. There's only so much he can do if they both choose to be stubborn over it.

An eyebrow quirks just so at the last thing Hiei says, green eyes falling to the tree he'd been clawing at not long before.

“You needn't worry, I'm certain the walls can handle it. I suppose, in that case, there is nothing more to discuss.” They are both stubborn and neither likely to bend on this topic, after all, unless Hiei has more to add, he has work to get back to.
jaganshi: (i'm not taking the punishment)

[personal profile] jaganshi 2024-12-09 12:02 am (UTC)(link)

Hiei’s eyes roll as Kurama tells him that the walls can handle it. He isn’t quite so sure about that, dependent on just how much they were climbing them, but .. well. He isn’t going to sit here and pick at the small details with Kurama either.

There is no point. They’re both obstinate in their own ways , despite everything outwardly that may make one think that they would behave differently.

“There is not.” Well… they agree on that at least. Of all things.