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1. How hard does this place go with simulating bodily functions? We have to eat and expel waste, but do we menstruate? Get colds? Get infections? Get cancer? Get pregnant?
2. If our robot overlord is all about crime and punishment, what happens if we kill someone here?
2. If our robot overlord is all about crime and punishment, what happens if we kill someone here?
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As myself, you mean? Not like this. No one I'd snap someone's neck for.
[ That was to protect Harold, too, but she doesn't think Shaw would mind that being an added motive. And she thinks the example will get her point across without making things too mushy. ]
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[Shaw says, wryly; this is strange and unique enough so as to be entirely unreplicatable.]
Have you ever had more than, I dunno, five dates with a single person? Dates that weren't for a con? Ever lived with anyone before?
[She's guessing no for the second, and maybe not even for the first.]
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[ She's not against casual sex with someone she likes on an ongoing basis, it's just not what she'd wanted with Shaw. And hey, if she's going to bring this up, she's going to get the question lobbied right back at her with intense interest. ]
You?
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[She shrugs.]
There were two people before him - a few months for each. College is when I started getting asked out, and if they were hot and not bad to be around, I'd think, Sure, why not, we can be dating. It was naive of me.
[Just like thinking she could have been a doctor had been. Her father's death had been her first real indicator that there was something different about her that other people didn't respond well to, but figuring out the shape of that difference had still taken time, and there had been many pitfalls and missteps along the way.]
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Thinking again of how little time they might really have, she offers in return, ] I figured out much sooner that I was never going to be what someone else was looking for. So I never really tried the way you did.
I didn't even finish college.
[ Her mother died, and that was the last hold tying her to anything like a normal life. Root didn't need an education; she needed to escape. And even this much, without adding that personal detail, Root realizes is more than Shaw's ever learned about her, either. Root had read her file in detail but the reverse had never occurred. She'd made sure she doesn't have a file to read. ]
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[Her partners had all come to see it that way, eventually. And by certain metrics, she hadn't: she'd passed over a good deal of things that most people consider baseline requirements for a relationship.
But measured by her own standards, in her own way, she'd tried so incredibly hard.]
I'm guessing you never regretted that? You don't seem like the late-in-life degree type.
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[ She's not saying that looking for affirmation, she's just acknowledging it, making sure Shaw knows she's noticed and it means something to her. It's hard for her to imagine Shaw not trying at some point to be the person society wanted her to be. That was all over her history from Root's view.
None of us has the life we want, huh?
Root wants to try in return, wants to touch at least a little on some of her background, wants to give. She doesn't want to make the conversation too serious as they take a romantic stroll with their dog through the lightly drifting snow, but she can give something. ]
It's hard to say I regret anything. I don't think I could have done anything differently. [ Root's voice is measured, even, her walking pace steady. ] I lost my faith in people early on. I learned the system doesn't work, that no one is looking out for you, that people will revert to their own interests.
I lost someone, and no one cared. So I wasn't going to care, either.
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[Her word choice might sound flippant, but her tone is completely solemn; she gives Root's hand an encouraging little squeeze.]
You lost your family? Your parents?
[The system doesn't work makes her think either the justice system or foster care; if Root was a kid, she's betting on the latter.]
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A friend. I reported it and everything. [ a beat ] I just did things myself after that.
[ Root thinks that explains her history well enough without getting into a whole sob story about it. ]
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For as long as I'm here, whatever the hell "here" is--
[Another squeeze.]
Even without the Machine, even if it's just me and not the rest of the team - you don't have to do things by yourself now.
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[ Not anyone, not even Shaw. Not apart from the Machine. Maybe someday was enough to hope for, the kind of realistic sentiment that was more than she expected in this dismal, dreary, disappointing world. But she's here and Shaw is saying she isn't alone and there's emotion welling up. Root lets it sit in her chest rather than suppress it. She's not tied up in anything, doesn't need to be ready to move at a moment's notice, she's... dead and over. She went out the best way she knew how.
And now she gets to have the only kind of rewarding afterlife she could ever believe in: a simulation with Sameen here with her. ]
We've really come a long way, haven't we? [ she muses, swinging their arms lightly. ] It doesn't surprise me I could've been a Samaritan agent, not really. But I know I'm happier this way.
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[Every time she'd even so much as hinted that she thought Samaritan had a point, no matter how small, it had horrified Harold enough that she never pressed the issue: she had, after all, firmly chosen her side and her people, and nothing was going to change that. And it hadn't, in the end: even after eleven months, and seven thousand simulations.]
The thing that bothers me most is that Decima knew it, too. If John or Harold had been the one to leave that elevator, Martine would've left them dead on the ground. Samaritan wouldn't have wanted to try to turn them; it would've known it would have been a waste of time. But it thought it could turn me.
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If Shaw's thinking that, though, it's not a pointless distraction at all. Root scoffs immediately, getting annoyed at Shaw's self-doubt. ]
Is this like when you thought the intel came from Guantanamo? Look a little deeper. Come on, Sameen, they picked that because it freaks you out. If they got John or Harold they would've done whatever worked on them, not wasted a resource by killing them.
You're the most straightforward, loyal person I know. And they knew that. You didn't even turn on the ISA when they got your partner killed.
[ It was evident in Shaw's history and it made for an obvious manipulation tactic as far as Root's concerned. ]
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[She gets what Root's saying, and the logic makes sense; it's not that she disagrees. But there's some more nuance here.]
I understood the ISA's methods in a way that I still don't understand Harold's, even though I trust now that his methods are better than theirs. The reason I didn't turn on the ISA is that I thought they were right. The reason I didn't turn on you guys is that you guys are my team, and I'm loyal to you, even though I don't always completely understand your ideals. It's the same reason I didn't turn on Cole when I didn't understand his.
[She feels a bitter twist in her stomach, thinking about that. She doesn't at all regret trying to protect Cole by keeping his reservations and intentions secret from their higher-ups; she never has, not even when the ISA still had her full loyalty. But she also doesn't really regret choosing to undo the work he'd died for, after he could no longer be affected by the decisions she made. It's not necessarily the same choice she'd make now - but back then, it had been her best option, and she stands by it.
Cole wouldn't have, though. She knew him well, and she knows that he would have seen it as a betrayal.]
Decima thought they could... turn back the clock, I guess. Break my loyalty to people and make me loyal to a cause again. There was a reason all their efforts were based around annoying philosophical arguments instead of, I dunno, trying to get Greer or Martine to bond with me.
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Then she says, ] I still don't buy it. What they want isn't loyalty to a cause or a person, it's loyalty to a god. Unquestioning and unreasoning. [ That had been Root once, but not anymore; not since Shaw was taken. ]
I have that in me, and maybe you did at one time. But the point is, we both changed. I know I could've been an agent for Samaritan -- easily, [ she emphasizes, ] but now? It could never happen. I couldn't work for Samaritan any more than you could shoot me in any one of thousands of simulations. They're absolutes, inviolable lines. And where your lines are tells you who you are.
They weren't trying to break your loyalty, they were just trying to break you.
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That makes sense.
[She says it slowly, rolling the words around in her mouth.]
Thanks.
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She intentionally steps to the side so she bumps into her, shoulder-to-shoulder, on the next stride. ]
No one can hold up to that forever, [ she goes on, because she does know how torture techniques work. She doesn't want Shaw thinking she had to somehow, impossibly, withstand what was done to her end on end in order for Root to trust her. ] You killed that scientist because you were confused.
[ Double-Sameen hadn't confessed that for no reason, she's sure. ]
But that doesn't change who you are. It doesn't make me trust you less.