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zephyr ([personal profile] crimsoncrow) wrote in [community profile] expiationnet2023-03-02 10:35 pm

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—ere we go. Hello? If anyone can hear this I've got a question that's been rolling around in the ol' noggin for the last week or so if you don't mind humoring an old man, uh. I know this might be a sensitive topic to some people and I don't intend to pry if it is, but I'm curious...

[ There's a brief pause as if the speaker is hesitating out of nerves, but he's taking a moment or three to put the right words together. ]

These crimes that we've all — I'm assuming it's all of us — have been accused of. Is... anyone actually guilty of them? I can't exactly argue 'bout mine when it's true on my end, but we can't all be "criminals" here, can we? What even determines that? 'Cause I promise you that where I'm from, something like... I dunno, stealing food for example is a matter of survival versus an actual crime but the more I listen to the folks who live here...

[ A shuffle, followed by a slow exhale. It's still so weird after the life he's lived. Eventually he'll Get It, but not today. Nope. Stars. Can't do it. ]

Sorry. I'm, eh... I was raised in a world completely different than this one. Having the freedom to actually talk about this sort of thing is pretty new, 'specially in a place that looks like this. Speaking of, I've got one more question for whoever might be listening:

What does it mean to you? Freedom. There's no wrong answer so don't worry 'bout that.
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[personal profile] enactors 2023-03-03 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
Guilty.

( it wasn't something he'd questioned, not when he'd first arrived and not now. there are other aspects about where they are and why that he questions, but not his crime — to the point that it hadn't occurred to him, until he'd started speaking with some of the others of their group, that they didn't all agree with the parchment, or believe themselves as guilty of what they'd been accused of.

that is to say: yes, he had thought they were all criminals.

but as for the second point— )
—Choice.
starguy: these might be super blurry I will fix them eventually (Mama she said)

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[personal profile] starguy 2023-03-03 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeaaah, the crimes seem kinda subjective if you ask me. But I mean isn't a lot of crime like that? 's like you said -- if you need to steal to survive, it kinda sucks to get thrown in jail over it. Some people do it for fun, sure, but a lot of the times it's the only way to get by. Or the only thing people have known.

[ He's on audio so there's just a pause while he shrugs. He hasn't said what his crime is yet though. ]

And freedom is... [ Another pause, this one longer than the first. The Ravagers would say freedom is stealing from everyone, doing whatever you want. But for Peter, well... ]

It's living by your own terms. Doesn't mean you won't face any consequences for it, but yeah. That's what I think, anyway.
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[personal profile] enactors 2023-03-03 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
( marc hmms first, tone mild and considering. it's not something he's given the greatest amount of thought to, the rest of it — where they are and how — taking priority. still, fairness as a concept is vague. )

It's implied. ( "prepare your defence", "repercussions". ) If by fair you mean 'justice'.
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[personal profile] grappler 2023-03-04 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
It depends on who you ask, for the first question.

[she's quiet for a minute, before speaking again:]

That's kinda deep to ask to a bunch of strangers. You having a crisis or something?
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[personal profile] meiren 2023-03-04 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Does being guilty matter for an accusation?

[ Well, that probably depends on the accuser, but it's not going to stop Zhou Zishu from being a cynic. ]

Why do you ask? Either.
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[personal profile] menancia 2023-03-04 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
[Zephyr is someone that Dohalim had known of through reputation back home— circumstances had kept them from meeting there, but he had heard about him often enough from Alphen, from Law. Meeting him here has been surreal in its own right, but not having been present in Cyslodia himself, Dohalim imagines it must be much more jarring for the others. Regardless, they have not had the chance to talk at length since meeting, not on their own, but the former Lord imagines they have a great deal to talk about— or might, if Zephyr is willing.]

I am certainly guilty of mine.

[His voice is quiet, even and somber, but there is no hesitation in it.]

I do not know that I have the right to speak to you about freedom, but I certainly have thoughts of my own on the subject.
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[personal profile] meiren 2023-03-04 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I misspoke. What I meant was, when did innocence ever stop an accusation? Or a conviction?

Would fighting back matter?
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[personal profile] baldrshand 2023-03-05 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Mine is certainly not true. It charges me with something I fought against at home.

As for your second question... I don't know if I've ever thought about it in such definite terms. [There's a pause as she contemplates it.] Perhaps it's about not having to fear those with power.
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[personal profile] counterattack 2023-03-05 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
[ oh look, it's the Bad Subject. FIRMLY: ]

I'm not guilty.

[ partly for Zephyr, since he asked, but he mostly just wants Those Who Are Obviously Listening to hear him. ]

...But yeah. You're right, and we should talk about it. Even if someone were guilty, what right do they have to accuse us?

[ let's just... leave the freedom question, for now. ]
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[personal profile] enactors 2023-03-05 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
( 'anything that's not execution or imprisonment' says a lot, particularly in tandem with the other question, the one about freedom.

or at least, marc thinks it does. )


It sounds like you're not used to justice. ( says the vigilante who likes to run around with what essentially amounts to a bag on his head, but y'know. details. )

What do you think this is? ( their present situation, he means. )
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[personal profile] meiren 2023-03-05 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You do consider yourself guilty, then?

[ He sounds more curious than anything. Not like he can talk, for sure. ]

I'd wonder if it would matter. The accusations here have been rather selective.

[ Why that particular charge out of the many, many terrible things Zhou Zishu has done? Food for thought. ]
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[personal profile] meiren 2023-03-07 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I would need more information.

[ Many people have been pretty cagey on what their charges are, oddly enough. Zhou Zishu is one of them, admittedly, but he's also cagey about most things. ]

But I doubt people would be quite so confused if they all considered themselves guilty.
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[personal profile] counterattack 2023-03-07 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno about that, but I know I didn't do what they say I did.

[ He's done more than enough to be guilty about, honestly; that's on his paper, too, printed matter-of-factly beside his height and weight and whatever else. He might be Protesting Too Much, but he'd rather that than the alternative. Than admitting fault for his alleged crime. ]

I'm still not totally convinced this isn't Rena. I mean, I guess we've kinda ruled it out, but there's no proof it isn't, either. If it is, that'd explain everything.

[ ...or would it. Also— ]

"Those of us who are"? Are you saying yours is true?

[ Not with any shock and amazement just yet, because like, yeah, everybody he cares about are criminals. Big deal. ]

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